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Sanders SD 2006 revised to 2008 spec Spy Pictures TOP SECRETTop Secret Spy Pictures of the new revised Sander SD 2006 revised for 2008
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Will post as soon as permission is given :shock:
This is worth the wait its radical thats one word to discribe it .....................
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PDHS
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Feel free Trev.
Post away.....
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Here She Is In All Her Glory
the new and updated 2008 car
There is a lot of stuff going on here Ill let Team Sanders explain if they want to or you could work it out for your self there are a couple of nice touches here which you may not spot straight away but we could all do this to our cars to a certain extent :D
Note the cells are not in the car it takes the trackpower 4900 Lipo as pictured in Photo one
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PDHS
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I'll let others guess before I reveal the theory behind the concept. It could be quite interesting to see what people think about it.
It doesn't take Lipo 4900s only 3200s, we would hit the driveshaft otherwise.
We're also thinking of a completely new chassis after 2006Bs shakedown at Southend.
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Jo90
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Regards fitting the lipo, I guess this is due to the lip on what was the Yoke chassis ? If so could you not remove the lip and simply add a carbon strengthaning bar at all ?
Could the chassis border on ground effects at all ?? I remember years back when I race a guy produced a Pro-10 chassis that was molded with ventury tunnels to induce grip at speed.
Either way it is good to see your still working on designs, not many people put their neck out to do such a project any more
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PDHS
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The only reason why 3200s can fit and not 4900 is because the 'mod' was designed around 3200s as that is all we had available at the time. As is the norm with these projects you always run out of time towards the end, so the next version will probably provide adequate room for 4900s.
With regards to a 'ground effect' design, that was the idea but it is very difficult to seal the bodyshell to the chassis unlike a unity construction on full-size touring cars, so some of the low pressure and hence aerodynamic gain is lost through the gaps. However we have tried to keep the undertray completely sealed without any cooling holes.
Although to be honest if we did a back-to-back test with and without the undertray I probably wouldn't notice any difference!!!
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Jo90
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It is harder on the tourers to get the seal your after, mainly sue to the moving arms of the steering and rear suspension. Do you not find it hinders the roll of the car in corners ? One thing most chassis tuners are looking at was to get the car as thin as possible, allowing for more chassis roll.
Either way, still impressed. I'll come and have a proper nose at Eastbourne :D
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admin
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When you see it close up you will notice somthing special about the motor cooling also Jo thats if you have not already spoted it :shock: you know a bit about computers don't you ????? :lol:
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PDHS
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Jo, we raised both front and rear roll centres to try and protect the outer edges, which worked. Unfortunately the next STCC meeting we'll be attending is West London so feel free to come and have a look then.
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Juan Hu Nose
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RE Ground EffectsI think you'll find ground effects are banned under BRCA rules.
I remember a couple of instances from years gone.
One was a full ground effect 1/8th scale F1 car with full sliding skirts, the complete works!, however I think it was this that led to the ban.
More recently the MR4Team version had a problem at Nationals as it had small venturi at the rear of the chassis which contravened the regulations.
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stephen
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you have the shocks back on the right way or the wroung way however that worked lol
im still not totaly sold that the hole car is leagal yet but im sure somone would have kicked up a fuss at the stcc if it was not so i spoz its ok. i just think that due to the size of the caps and that theyare holding a fair chrage from what i hear, you could class them as a cell as them themselfves becuse they still are holding charge that is going to the moter but then that would make all caps banded. i dont want the car banded or anything think its a great pice of engering. just putting in a point that i hope somone will be able to explan to me a bit more.
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PDHS
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The caps we have installed at the moment are the same type as you would get with a speedo package, we just have bigger ones and more of them.
With regards to banning caps, there is nothing in the BRCA rules that says you aren't allowed to run them. But I dont think it's possible to say we are effectively running another load of cells because of the different way in which the caps charge and discharge themselves. Cells require a chemical reaction to create charge whereas caps store a static charge between two plates meaning a high voltage but very little duration. It wouldn't be practical to run a car on capacitors alone.
I think someone will only kick up a fuss about our car if we start winning!!
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Greyfox
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So start winning and let's see whose feathers you can ruffle - it'll provide something else to talk/laugh about!!
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